09-02-2021, 01:17 PM
(这个帖子最后修改于: 09-02-2021, 04:26 PM by Enrico_1425.)
Wei, thanks for opening this thread. I already reported all the bugs that I found to Matrix Audio but wanted them to be available for others X-SABRE 3 owners to see if the find the same bugs in their units.
Matriz Audio X-SABRE 3 running SW: V1.01 Build 043. I use my X-SABRE 3 and mini-i Pro 3 as Roon End Points only. I also have a Bluesound NODE (2021) and an ARCAM ST60 Streamer, both of them part of my Roon network as well. I haver several Roon remotes, including iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone 12 mini, iPad Air (2020), 2017 27" iMac and iPad mini 5.
1.- When pausing a MQA song, then replay, the song starts for about 1 sec, then stops then starts again with a fade in. All MQA songs start with a fade in, no matter if there is no change in sampling rate. You can see in the X-SABRE 3 screen that the sampling rate goes from PCM to nothing then to MQA and during the transition is when the stop and resume happens. This does not happens with the mini-i Pro 3. This issue only happens with MQA songs. PCM has no issues and no fade in. I remember a few similar bugs were fixed in the mini-i Pro 3 with the latest firmware update. What I call fade in is what Roon calls Crossfade which I have set at 0 secs. I checked with the X-SABRE 3 connected directly via USB to my iMac and when playing with TIDAL app, all the issues reported are present as well and only with MQA songs.
2.- Regarding TIDAL Connect. There is a gap between songs of about 2 to 3 secs. It’s like after every song end, the screen goes back to Nothing Playing, then it resumes connection and the new song starts. This is not MQA dependent as it happens with any song. Airplay however, plays fine without interruptions. I checked Tidal Connect with my Bluesound NODE (2021) and it plays totally fine.
3.- Some songs over Qobuz and TIDAL in PCM (Flac) start with about half second cut. This issue does not happen with the mini-i Pro 3. Meaning it's not the song, and most likely the player.
4.- Auto Sleep function from Roon works most of the time but not always. So decided to leave the SABRE-3 to control the Auto Sleep and not Roon but would be great if you can fix it. If I turn ON or OFF the X-SABRE 3 from Roon, always work but the Auto Sleep not always. UPDATE: This issue seems to be fixed. Auto Sleep is now working from Roon. However, yesterday the unit went to sleep while I was playing a song. It hasn't happened again so not sure if it's a bug or something else. By that time I had the Auto Sleep function active in the X-SABRE 3. Now it's Disabled and only enabled in Roon.
5.- If the X-SABRE 3 is on Standby and I start playing a song from Roon, I get this message on Roon screen: "Failed To Open The Audio Device". This also happens with my ARCAM ST60 but not with the mini-i Pro 3. Update: Looks like this was fixed but it's happening again. It happens most of the times but not always. Like 1 out 3.
I have next to the X-SABRE 3 what I call the most reliable and glitch free streamer that I own, your Matrix Audio mini-i Pro 3. Whatever you through to the mini-i Pro 3, it will play it flawlesly with ZERO glitches. I haven't had a single glitch with the mini-i Pro 3 since day one and I have been using it for the last 6 months for at least 6 hours a day. I think what you need to do is copy & paste the playback settings from the mini-i Pro 3 into the X-SABRE 3. I know it's not that easy but as a reference, the mini-i Pro 3 is the player to replicate in terms of playback and reliability, mostly with MQA songs.
I also sent videos of these bugs to Matrix Audio.
Thanks again to Wei for taking care of this over ASR forum and over here. You guys got in me a customer for life. Your products are just incredible in terms of build quality and performance.
Best Regards,
Enrico
UPDATE: Just tried Spotify Connect and it works PERFECTLY. It plays gapless with no interruptions between songs and each song starts immediately as soon as you press play. This is the way TIDAL Connect should work as well.
Matriz Audio X-SABRE 3 running SW: V1.01 Build 043. I use my X-SABRE 3 and mini-i Pro 3 as Roon End Points only. I also have a Bluesound NODE (2021) and an ARCAM ST60 Streamer, both of them part of my Roon network as well. I haver several Roon remotes, including iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone 12 mini, iPad Air (2020), 2017 27" iMac and iPad mini 5.
1.- When pausing a MQA song, then replay, the song starts for about 1 sec, then stops then starts again with a fade in. All MQA songs start with a fade in, no matter if there is no change in sampling rate. You can see in the X-SABRE 3 screen that the sampling rate goes from PCM to nothing then to MQA and during the transition is when the stop and resume happens. This does not happens with the mini-i Pro 3. This issue only happens with MQA songs. PCM has no issues and no fade in. I remember a few similar bugs were fixed in the mini-i Pro 3 with the latest firmware update. What I call fade in is what Roon calls Crossfade which I have set at 0 secs. I checked with the X-SABRE 3 connected directly via USB to my iMac and when playing with TIDAL app, all the issues reported are present as well and only with MQA songs.
2.- Regarding TIDAL Connect. There is a gap between songs of about 2 to 3 secs. It’s like after every song end, the screen goes back to Nothing Playing, then it resumes connection and the new song starts. This is not MQA dependent as it happens with any song. Airplay however, plays fine without interruptions. I checked Tidal Connect with my Bluesound NODE (2021) and it plays totally fine.
3.- Some songs over Qobuz and TIDAL in PCM (Flac) start with about half second cut. This issue does not happen with the mini-i Pro 3. Meaning it's not the song, and most likely the player.
4.- Auto Sleep function from Roon works most of the time but not always. So decided to leave the SABRE-3 to control the Auto Sleep and not Roon but would be great if you can fix it. If I turn ON or OFF the X-SABRE 3 from Roon, always work but the Auto Sleep not always. UPDATE: This issue seems to be fixed. Auto Sleep is now working from Roon. However, yesterday the unit went to sleep while I was playing a song. It hasn't happened again so not sure if it's a bug or something else. By that time I had the Auto Sleep function active in the X-SABRE 3. Now it's Disabled and only enabled in Roon.
5.- If the X-SABRE 3 is on Standby and I start playing a song from Roon, I get this message on Roon screen: "Failed To Open The Audio Device". This also happens with my ARCAM ST60 but not with the mini-i Pro 3. Update: Looks like this was fixed but it's happening again. It happens most of the times but not always. Like 1 out 3.
I have next to the X-SABRE 3 what I call the most reliable and glitch free streamer that I own, your Matrix Audio mini-i Pro 3. Whatever you through to the mini-i Pro 3, it will play it flawlesly with ZERO glitches. I haven't had a single glitch with the mini-i Pro 3 since day one and I have been using it for the last 6 months for at least 6 hours a day. I think what you need to do is copy & paste the playback settings from the mini-i Pro 3 into the X-SABRE 3. I know it's not that easy but as a reference, the mini-i Pro 3 is the player to replicate in terms of playback and reliability, mostly with MQA songs.
I also sent videos of these bugs to Matrix Audio.
Thanks again to Wei for taking care of this over ASR forum and over here. You guys got in me a customer for life. Your products are just incredible in terms of build quality and performance.
Best Regards,
Enrico
UPDATE: Just tried Spotify Connect and it works PERFECTLY. It plays gapless with no interruptions between songs and each song starts immediately as soon as you press play. This is the way TIDAL Connect should work as well.
