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Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Wei Cao - 02-22-2023

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RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Anton_2769 - 08-15-2023

Good afternoon. I have a PS Audio DirectStream DAC and am planning to purchase a Matrix Element S. Are the I2S of these devices compatible?


RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Wei Cao - 08-17-2023

(08-15-2023, 10:12 AM)Anton_2769 提到: Good afternoon. I have a PS Audio DirectStream DAC and am planning to purchase a Matrix Element S. Are the I2S of these devices compatible?

Dear Anton.

Thanks for asking.
I have not paired the 2 devices in 1 system yet.
The pinouts and configurations of IIS out of element S is the same as X-SPDIF3. As I know, a lot of users of PS Audio DirectStream DAC are using their DAC with X-SPDIF 2 and 3. You may find a more accurate answer from PS Audio forums. If the X-SPDIF 2 or 3 works with DirectStream DAC perfectly, the element S does too. Here is some discussions on X-SPDIF 2/3 on PS Audio forums.
https://forum.psaudio.com/t/matrix-x-spdif-2/9116


RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Pino - 09-25-2023

Hello,

I have a GUSTARD X26 Pro DAC to which I would like to combine the new MATRIX Audio Element S streamer using the IIS-VLSD interface.

I know the PIN details of my DAC and wanted to ask if the Element S is compatible with my DAC or if it is possible to get the details of the 4 kinds of IIS-LVDS pin definition and 2 MCLK modes on this port.

I was also curious to confirm compatibility with the MQA encoding of the Element S, which is not mentioned anywhere.

Thank you in advance for your kind attention.

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RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Wei Cao - 10-08-2023

Regarding IIS pinouts. According to the picture you attached, when the PCM audio is playing, use IIS definition type B on element S to send the audio to your Gustard; but when DSD audio is playing, IIS pinout type C seems match the Gustard. (Please note, this is a speculation based on the pinouts diagram. Matrix Audio uses a high level on pin #15 to indicate DSD while a low level on this pin to indicate PCM, Gustard says mode 0 for PCM and mode 1 for DSD, I don't know if they matches)

The element S is a pure digital transport, it doesn't do MQA unfold. If you are playing a MQA track, the element S will output the original audio data through the USB port or digital audio ports (optical, coaxial, AES/EBU and IIS-LVDS) If your DAC support MQA full unfold through the port you are using, you'll get MQA contents fully unfold. It's depends on your DAC.


RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Andrei_3045 - 11-27-2023

Hello,
im having Denafrips Venus 2 Dac. Is there a manual for connecting it with Element S with I2S. Everything is playing good but not sure that IIS+ (4pin) and IIS- (6pin) are not reversed polarity. Currently using type A. Another question is about MCLK Mode, currently using mode B.

Best regards,
Andre


RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - LI HUI - 11-28-2023

(11-27-2023, 10:20 PM)Andrei_3045 提到: Hello,
im having Denafrips Venus 2 Dac. Is there a manual for connecting it with Element S with I2S. Everything is playing good but not sure that IIS+ (4pin) and IIS- (6pin) are not reversed polarity. Currently using type A. Another question is about MCLK Mode, currently using mode B.

Best regards,
Andre
HI~Andre
I checked the manual of the Denafrips Venus 2 Dac. Regarding the IIS pinouts, use the type A definition of element S and the MODE 0 definition of the Denafrips Venus 2 Dac when playing PCM. The manual of Denafrips Venus 2 Dac does not mention the definition for DSD, so I'm not sure if DSD could be played correctly. 
According to the IIS definition of Denafrips Venus 2 Dac, we can see that pins #10 and #12 for MCLK are not used. So it will not accept MCLK signals from front-end devices, and the MCLK settings on element S will not work.

element S IIS define :https://www.matrix-digi.com/pdf/IIS_LVDS_Pin_Definition_4_Types_CN_v20221212.pdf

Denafrips Venus 2 Dac manual:  https://www.denafrips.com/_files/ugd/4b933e_71168276ebb84b019018afe9265d170e.pdf


RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Giacomo_3319 - 01-24-2024

I have Matrix x Sabre 3. Wich of the 4 IIS LVDS choices for Topping m50? Il e


RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Wei Cao - 01-25-2024

(01-24-2024, 11:12 AM)Giacomo_3319 提到: I have Matrix x Sabre 3. Wich of the 4 IIS LVDS choices for Topping m50? Il e

Dear Giacomo,
I checked the user manual of Topping M50, according to Topping's IIS definition diagram:
1. Set the X-SABRE 3, IIS definition = Type B. 
2. Set the X-SABRE 3, enter device configuration from MA Remote app, find the option "Mute pin of IIS-LVDS port", select  "mute when inputting a low level" or "Don't mute". Please note,  this option is only available for X-SABRE 3 with the latest firmware.
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3. Set the Topping: Phase=STDIIS,  DSDR=DATADSD,  Flag=15

This is the speculation according to the definition documents, we have not tested the M50 with Matrix Audio device, I'm not sure if work for you. Please try it.


RE: Index of compatibility of IIS-LVDS port of Matrix Audio and other brand products. - Giacomo_3319 - 02-01-2024

The n I will decide for Matrix Audio Element s for improving streaming of matrix Audio x Sabre 3.
Element s have two clock and I will run x Sabre 3 with Synk mode. Wich output can you suggest, USB or II2s? Is it well dome or not?